GUEST STARS, CAST & CREDITS
TV GUIDE PROMO
AIRING AND RATING INFORMATION
SYNOPSIS 1 by Bluesong
COMMENTARY 1 BY Beth the Gaynor
COMMENTARY 2 BY Xorys
COMMENTARY 3 BY Videntur
COMMENTARY 4 BY Beboman
COMMENTARY 5 BY Elad Avron
WHERE HAVE I SEEN YOU BEFORE?
WHIMPERS, MURMURS, AND A LOVE GONE TOO FAR
THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR
MORE THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR
Lucy Lawless (Annie)
Renee O'Connor (Dr. Mattie Merrill)
Tammy Barker (Mattie Actng Double)
Written by R. J. Stewart
Edited by --
Directed by Renee O'Connor
XENA'S SPIRIT LIVES IN OUR WORLD.
(Harry turns around and finds Annie pointing a sword at him.)
A PARANORMAL ENCOUNTER OR A SUPERNATURAL SCAM?
(Marco activates a time bomb.)
Ares: Are we gonna fight again?
Harry-Xena: Bring it on.
(Harry-Xena forces Ares to lose his sword.)
A NEW ADVENTURE--
Ares: Cut! That's it, I'm done!
DO YOU BELIEVE--
Mattie (to Annie): Say it.
XENA'S SPIRIT LIVES IN OUR WORLD.
(Harry turns around and finds Annie pointing a sword at him.)
Mattie (to Annie): I'm going to get you a sedative.
A PARANORMAL ENCOUNTER--
Mattie: I'm going to come back as a worm.
OR A SUPERNATURAL SCAM?
(Marco activates a time bomb.)
Marco: Let's just say I'm settling an old score.
Annie: I'm going to get us out of this mess.
THE GOD OF WAR CALLS IT KARMIC CHAOS.
Ares: Are we gonna fight again?
Harry-Xena: Bring it on.
(Harry-Xena forces Ares to lose his sword.)
A NEW ADVENTURE--
Ares: Okay, no! Time! That's it, I'm done!
TV GUIDE PROMO
A woman is convinced she is the reincarnation of Xena, the Warrior Princess.
Annie wakes up to tell her husband Harry that she knows she was Xena in a past life, and she thinks she may be the Xena-esque vigilante keeping the streets safe at night. He takes her to see Dr. Mattie Merrill who is an expert in past lives. [mania.com]
AIRING AND RATING INFORMATION
1st RELEASE: 05/17/99
An AA average of 3.8
Competition from Syndicated Action Dramas:
(1) X-Files 9th at 5.0
(2) Star Trek DS9 12th at 4.4
(3) Walker Texas Ranger 14th at 3.8
(4) Xena 15th at 3.8
(5) Hercules 19th at 3.5
(6) ER 22nd at 3.5
This synopsis is by Bluesong.
A suburban home. Someone dreams clips from "Callisto." A woman, Annie (Lucy Lawless), wakes Harry (Ted Raimi). Annie tells Harry she had a dream and she's really Xena reincarnated. Harry says yeah, right, and Annie pulls a sword on Harry. She hands him a news release about a vigilante Xena impersonator. Annie thinks it's her. Annie decides to go see a past lives counselor.
Annie and Harry enter the Welcome To Who You Used To Be place, where Joan of Arc and some other people wait. One man, Marco (Robert Trebor), is the receptionist or something. The doctor comes out (Renee O'Connor) and takes Annie back to her office. Annie goes into a trance and remembers "Return of Callisto" (?). Marco checks his gun while Harry listens to a radio report about the vigilante Xena. Harry says he wants to go get his girlfriend. Annie screams because she realizes, after another clip shot, that she is Joxer reincarnated. Harry fusses at the Doctor and tells her to make Annie remember she's somebody else. Marco listens in at the door. A clip from "In Sickness and in Hell." The doctor seems to remember something too, and goes to get Annie a sedative. Marco and the doctor talk about their scam, and the doctor says she had a funny thing happen while hypnotizing Annie. Annie and Harry talk. The doctor returns, and sends everyone back to ancient Greece in a trance. Another clip from "In Sickness and in Hell." Marco comes into the room with a gun. He ties everyone up. The doctor tells him to take all the money; she doesn't want any part of the scam anymore. The doctor leaves a bomb on the desk. The doctor talks about her karma and how she's screwed things up. Harry tells the doctor to take them all back, because one of them is Xena. They remember "the show with Jr. when Gabrielle returns, 4th season (I can't remember the name of it)". They think the doctor must have been Xena. Another trance, "The Quest", (including the Kiss). Annie looks at the bomb; she says she's going to disarm it. Annie and Harry argue. Harry hits Annie across the face and she falls to the ground. Another regression, "Return of Callisto". The doctor realizes she was Gabrielle. Harry says he knows now which of them is Xena -- him. He uses the chakram to cut himself free and disarms the bomb.
Marco returns. He morphs into Ares (Kevin Smith). Ares wants Xena by his side, regardless of body. He says the world is ripe to take because of the Y2K problem. He reminds Xena how they used to be ("The Reckoning"). Ares holds a sword to the doctor's throat. Ares and Harry fight. Annie whacks Ares in the head. Ares leaves. Harry and the doctor look at each other. Annie tells Harry they can't be together, and that Harry and the doctor are soulmates. Clip: "One Against An Army." Annie defends Joxer as not being so inane, and leaves. Harry and the doctor sit and talk. A montague of touching clips. Harry and the doctor kiss. Annie sings an "Annie" version of the Joxer song and skips off down the sidewalk.
This commentary is by Beth Gaynor.
To get really geeky about Xena "canon," according to this episode and The Xena Scrolls, there are both descendants and reincarnations of Xena and Gabrielle running around. Plus there's no reason the propensity for lookalikes wouldn't still be paddling about the gene pool (Annie, Mattie, and Harry bear striking resemblances to people they're not related to). Between all that, we're probably all somehow infected by our two heroes. We can start greeting each other with "Are you a reincarnation, a descendent, or a lookalike?"
I liked Ted Raimi's work in this episode. He's good as a competent, bemused, annoyed, and occasionally funny guy. Loved his fake Indian call to set off Custer. But I'm sorry, he still can't do menacing to save his life. His Xena impersonation just sounded like Jett all over again.
I like bawdy jokes that are less obvious than a Mack truck. Annie's expression when Mattie tells her to feel her breath move through her diaphragm is great.
Best in-joke show-trashes:
"They should never have introduced [Joxer's] character in the first place!" I know quite a few folks who have said this. "No, I don't watch that show. Bunch of chop-socky crap." I have friends who have said this. "Besides, [Sickness and Hell] was so repulsive. It couldn't have been an episode." I'VE said this. MY POINT EXACTLY! "They're sneaky. They'll try anything. One week they're melodrama, the next week the Three Stooges." We've ALL said that.
The crown for best crack, though, was Mattie's "That was umm... confusing" after the flashback to the kiss from The Quest. Then of course the episode keeps that confusion level right were it is by giving us a big Harry-Mattie smooch at the end. Just because the XenaStaff's willing to make fun of themselves doesn't mean they have any intention of changing one iota, God love 'em.
I dunno where Annie got the overshirt she puts on the minute she realizes she was Joxer, but it's perfect for the part.
Annie knew right away that she was Joxer. Why was it so tough for Harry and Mattie to figure out who they were? Unfamiliarity with the show, or because Xena and Gabrielle are so tightly connected?
Ares has grown his hair longer, gotten even more buff... and turned wussier. It was fun to see him after a season of silence, but Y2K? Couldn't XenaStaff have come up with something less cliched? Humbug.
The Harry-Ares fight was pretty fun, especially the creative uses of a bean bag chair, phone book, and the homage to The Avengers with the umbrella.
I missed Ares's usual evil chortle when he vanishes. This time he just looked like he was about to pass gas.
A complete list of the flashbacks and the episodes they're from, for those of you who are into trivia:
Callisto: Ladder fight (this one was LONG) Sacrifice II: "Death" of Hope and Gabrielle Intimate Stranger: Joxer face-dive In Sickness and In Hell: Tavern speech Sickness and Hell (thanks, deb7!): Village battle Family Affair: "Death" (?) of Dinsdale and Hope Quest: The kiss (with M'Lila's song in the background, for some weird reason) Return of Callisto: Joxer's "rescue" of Xena and Gab Reckoning: Ares's seduction of Xena One Against an Army: Gab's "deathbed" speech
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Renee O'Connor is a hilarious comedienne. The look on her face after the Sickness and Hell flashback was priceless. Lucy shines the best when she does her march to "Annie the Mighty." (Although I also roared at her line "I can't believe you're trashing Xena at a time like this.") The final montage, with Gabrielle's new speech about never dying, was a gorgeous way to end the season. It wouldn't have had nearly the punch it does if it had played before Ides of March. But with that knowledge hanging over our heads (pardon the curcifixion pun), the episode was a fun and kinda touching way to end the season. Now it's just a matter of tracing my family tree to look for Janice Covington to occupy my summer until season five. And by the way, have I mentioned what stunning directorial prowess this episode showed? Way to go, ROC!
This commentary is by Xorys.
Well, I liked Deja Vu. As a matter of fact, I liked it quite a lot. For me it was the best comedy ep that they've done in a long while, beating out The Play's The Thing (which I also found very funny) as my favourite comedy ep of the fourth season. And since I liked it even better on re-viewing than I did the first time through, I think it's unlikely to fall from that estimation.
It had it's flaws here and there... but what, in this imperfect world, doesn't? Most notably there were quite a few lines, thrown in for the sheer "one-liner impact", the potential to get an instant laugh, which just made no sense at all in the context of the supposed character uttering them and the situation they were in.
Also, I've spoken before about how the comedy eps seem to have moved more and more to existing "out of the world" of the show as a whole, not so much creating comic situation within the imaginative world of the show, as early comedies, such as Warrior...Princess did, but rather relying for their comedy to a large extent on the fact that we know that we are outside the world of the show, and that the show *is* "just a show". Deja Vu, of course, very much continued in this trend... and most of the ep's own internal inconsistency came from the fact that it didn't seem able to settle firmly upon an attitude to the "world of the show" - is it "just a show", subject to the demands of the market and the whims of the writers and producers, or is it a contiguous part of the reality in which this ep takes place, which would presumably be necessary for the characters in this ep to actually be reincarnations of characters from the show (to say nothing of Ares' little shape-changing and dematerialising tricks)? The script of this ep, if you actually listen to it carefully, can't seem to make up its 'mind' about this question, at points clearly implying one answer, at other points the opposite. Personally I regard this lack of internal consistency as a flaw... although I suppose one could argue that it is a legitimate literary technique, something along the lines of Brechtian 'alienation' or postmodern subversion of the narrative. Of course, one would then have to ask, *why* is it being done... the reasons could hardly be the same as Brecht's, nor even really the postmodernists'. I suppose the obvious answer is that it creates a sort of self-aware, shape-shifting comedy which is appropriate in our media-savvy, endlessly reflexive and ironic world (which in a way, I suppose, is to say it's all of a piece with the postmodern view, where irony reigns supreme). Or, it could just be that they thought it was funny, and they couldn't be bothered about the other stuff.
I've been wrestling somewhat, recently, with the whole question of how committed the creators of the show are to things like overall consistency, or the idea of sustaining an imaginative vision into which all of the episodes of the show can be seen to fit. Sometimes, notably watching something like Ides, one wonders if they really take things like consistency and overall imaginative vision seriously at all. It almost seems that they've been moving increasingly to a position where they don't - each ep is just a drama and a spectacle in its own right, and may well say things about the characters and the world they live in which make no sense whatsoever in terms of things shown in other eps. I used to think that, with a bit of stretching, you could just about see a consistently imagined world and a consistently imagined set of characters being portrayed over the length of the series (and over HTLJ as well - which, after all, is explicitly set in the same universe, and shares characters). Recently I'm almost forced to the conclusion that this is not so... the universe and the characters can be arbitrarily recast to suit the needs of a particular episode, it appears... which means that trying to make any kind of coherent sense of the show as a whole is perhaps a futile exercise. Perhaps one can expect no more from a commercial TV show. And I suppose such an approach (each ep is a new exploration, growing out of the format of the show, but not obliged to maintain actual narrative and character consistency with what went before) could well be defended, even on purely artistic grounds... So we would have to "start afresh" with each ep, treating it as a new thing, rather than part of a single extended imaginative world. So then, watching a new X:WP ep becomes more like, for example, reading a new book about King Arthur... we expect it to take some elements from the Arthurian legends as we know them from other books, but we don't expect it to actually restrict itself to any complete consistency with the 'narrative facts' or characters of any other book. *Is* this how we should look at an X:WP ep now? Each ep is a new interpretation, with no obligation to adhere to the narrative or characters established in other eps? Of course *between* books, particularly if they are by different authors, this sort of thing is regarded as perfectly normal; however, a book which did it internally, from chapter to chapter as it were, would still be regarded as something of an experiment in postmodernism, rather than the norm (well ok, it would be nothing startlingly original in a literary novel, but still fairly 'out there' for genre fiction).
Anyhow... sorry to rabbit on. Back to Deja Vu. For all the questions it raised in my mind about intra- and inter-episode consistency, I still really liked it. It met my self-defined criteria for a great X:WP ep - it gripped me all the way through, it made me laugh, and it made me cry (in this case sometimes both at once, which is quite a remarkable trick). Of course these criteria are rather simplistic, based, as they are, simply on observing my own, more or less involuntary, reactions to the experience of watching the ep. Obviously these reactions don't exist in a vacuum... and in the long run, if the creators of the show don't sustain my imaginative involvement with the characters, my empathy, my human feeling for these people I'm watching, clearly the show won't be able to continue to draw these kind of reactions from me. In other words, irony and novelty can't be simply ends in themselves. Even if narrative consistency isn't there, there has to be some kind of consistent reference to human realities in terms that are experientially coherent to the audience, or else the audience's investment in the show is bound to ebb away. In some ways I think the show's creators are somehow "spending their capital" these days, if not, sometimes, frittering it away. That is to say, they are building on an investment we as audience have in characters and a world which they portrayed... but are they continuing to grow these assets so they will have something to build on in the future? Well, I suppose they are trying... although I fear the lack of consistency and coherency in their recent efforts means they haven't been generating the returns they did in former periods.
Sorry... I am doing it again! See, I really thought Deja Vu was an excellent ep, and hilarious too. But I'm still in rather a sombre, reflective mood after what I saw as the complete catastrophe of Ides.
On a totally different tack, one more thing, before we take a wander through the details of Deja Vu... just to speculate: what do you think they did between when they were first going to air Deja Vu and the version we got now? I mean, it's been widely theorised that the reason they had to pull it back was that, being a clip show, it originally had material involving The Way, and that, having withdrawn The Way, they felt that they had to redo Deja Vu to eliminate this. Now, I should say clearly that I do not know whether this is true. However, it sounds reasonable and likely, and it's sort of interesting to speculate about. As it is, the ep has quite a few references to karma and reincarnation, but really absolutely *nothing* that even the most fanatical Hindu fundamentalist could manage to work up a protest about. I hardly think this is an accident. So what was in the first version? Perhaps one or two clips from India eps, and some sort of additional stuff about the karmic cycle? I can well see, especially within a satirical context, how that wouldn't have gone down well with the Vaishnava hardliners and their assorted pals. Ah well, on the bright side, I seriously doubt that the ep is much the worse for any changes made. For me, at least, it works very well as it is, aside from some quibbles about consistency... oh, and wishing they hadn't dragged the dreadful In Sickness And In Hell in.
So... let's take our wander... for the last time this season (and we shall just have to see what next season brings)...
Well we start with the ladder fight from Callisto...and you couldn't start in a much better place than that! This one got into The Xena Scrolls too. But this is only sound judgement on the part of TPTB - it *is* one of the finest scenes they've ever done, and I don't blame them at all for wanting to get more mileage out of it.
* "This was not a nightmare, Harry - it was an epiphany!" "In a time of ancient gods... I was Xena, the Warrior Princess!" Got to admit, I'm loving this stuff already. More than anything else, I guess, Lucy's Annie was what *made* this ep for me. She was just brilliant. No doubt about it, even as the "Joxer" character, she was still the indubitable star and focus... if this ep itself went to a series, clearly that series would be The Adventures Of Annie Banannie, *not* Harry The Warrior Princess!
* "That does it - I'm cutting you off! No more internet chat rooms... and I'm dumping this thing!"
"Get ya hands off that, Harry!" Yeah, you go girl! Anyone tries to trash my stand-up, I'll take my sword to 'em too! (Though I only have the mass-produced stand-up, not the rarer Pepsi one, like Annie's, and I sure don't have a fancy prop sword like hers...) And what *is* this patronising crap from Harry anyway? "I'm cutting you off" indeed!
* Annie says she thinks she must have played the Xena Vigilante on the nights when Harry was "working late at the hospital". What? So this particular incarnation of Xena is a doctor? Presumably... after all, if Xena's working in a hospital, what else is she going to be? And it always was very much one of her many skills...
* "... but when my body is taken over by my previous life spirit, Xena Warrior Princess, I clearly become a very dangerous woman!" I *loved* the way Lucy did this, standing in front of the cut-out and all. In fact I thought Lucy was *terrific* in this ep overall... it was probably her finest comic performance yet (and we do know that she likes to do the comedy...)
* And it's off to see the "Past Lives Counsellor"! Does Rene=E9 have some sort of yen to be a counsellor? Camp counsellors... Past Lives Counsellors... Or is this just how the writers see her?
* "And you said that dressing the part was silly.... Well these people don't seem to think it's silly at all!" "Who could argue with them?"LOL! I liked Lucy in the Halloween costume too!
* "Joan of Arc? Xena... of Amphipolis." "Huh! Bet my sword's bigger than yours!" More good stuff. "Yu are obviously a luvvair not a fattair..." Apparently this Joan of Arc is related to Inspector Clouseau! (Or that guy on the battlements in Monty Python And The Holy Grail...)
* How come Annie gets to see the doctor first... everyone else was there before her?
* "Joan... new armour! Ah... looking sharp, George!" Nice little 'Hollywood manner' Rene=E9 has there! But how can that guy on the couch think he's a reincarnation of General George Patton... I mean he looked old enough that you'd have thought he was born before 1945, which was when Patton died - and I didn't think you were allowed to have two incarnations that= overlapped?
* Interesting little bit of 'quasi-Indian' music used here... tabla (Indian drums), sitar, bansuri (Indian flute), with finger chimes and guitar. Presumably intended to evoke a sort of 'hippy' atmosphere... Makes one wonder again if they might have originally planned to play up the Indian connection considerably more in this ep, which is, after all, basically about reincarnation...
* The Doc asks who Harry is, and he says "Annie's boyfriend" - isn't this rather Sandy Wilson? I mean, do people in modern California still introduce themselves this way? It reminded me a bit of Frau Blucher's great revelation in Mel Brook's Young Frankenstein: "Yes... he vas my Boyfriend!"
* "I'm sorry, but it's in Annie's best interest that her first past life voyage be by herself." So... Rene=E9 finally gets to *play* one of those dubious gurus she otherwise usually seems to find herself falling for.
* Lava lamps, candles *and* incense! There weren't exactly going for subtlety, were they? I bet the set dressers had fun with this one!
* The "Doctor's" hypnotic technique was a bit simple, wasn't it? Heck, if it were that easy, we'd all be doing it (only in the best of causes, of course
). Still, I suppose they didn't really have time for anything much more complicated. But wouldn't it have worked better if they'd given her some sort of doohickey... a magic crystal, or a patterned wheel, or something?
* Actually, I thought Annie had just gone to sleep the first time the Doc hypnotised her.
* Ye gods, they certainly weren't pulling their punches in the clips they used, eh? Throwing in the actual 'sacrifice' scene from last year's season finale, for example. My, that seems like a long while ago...
* It's ok, Annie, you're in your present body!" Hmm... novel way to reassure someone.
* "I saw Hope and Gabrielle fall into the pit... I experienced the whole thing, and... it broke my heart! I am Xena!" Lovely performance from Lucy there... and honestly, second time round, knowing she was Joxer, I liked it even better.
* "You didn't make a soul meld." "Is that bad?"
* And when we see the waiting room again, Harry is there with the wild west guy (Custer?), and Patton, Joan of Arc and all seem to have gone. Huh?! So what were they waiting there for?
* Bit of a weird trick Harry did with the "woo woo" thing. And did native Americans really ever do that? I sort of thought it was more just a Hollywood invention. But then the woman playing cards with Joan (Pocahontas) was pretty much a "Hollywood Indian" too... the real Pocahontas was a woods Indian not a plains Indian, and not much more than a child when she married John Rolfe (after which she was more or less forcibly converted to Christianity and shipped off to England, where she died of smallpox when she was about 21... not really a very happy story). Mind you, if we're talking history, neither Custer nor Patton would be people I'd much want to share a room with...
* And the Doc's hypno technique gets even *more* basic on subsequent iterations...
* When Annie went under the second time at the Doc's I thought at first we were getting the scene from Orphan Of War where Xena give up Solan - it looked like that, with Xena advancing in the dark wearing some kind of cloak. But then we jumped into A Family Affair instead. Were the first shots from AFA too? I guess so, but I don't remember the 'cloak'...
* "Police have no idea who the Xena Vigilante is, but do theorise it's an over-exuberant fan of the show." Now... don't you even *think* about it, no matter how over-exuberant you are!
* "Ye gods, the horror!" Nice scream from Annie.
* An *awful* lot of whooshing in this ep... for all sorts of things - people shaking their fingers, people putting their heads round doors... Does this mean that Rene=E9 *really* likes whooshing (well, in a comedy ep, anyway)... or is that sort of post-production thing not under the director's control?
* "He's the comic relief!" *Loved* the way Lucy said this. But how do you reconcile such a comment with believing that Joxer was real? I mean, if Annie thinks she is the reincarnation of Joxer, then presumably she must think Joxer is real, non-fictional... but surely saying he's "the comic relief" clearly implies that he's *not* real, fictional?
* "They should never have introduced his character in the first place!" OK, I nearly hurt myself laughing at this (sorry... I actually like it when the show makes fun of us - especially when they do it well). *But*, again... if Annie thinks she *is* Joxer, *how* can she talk of him as a "character" who was "introduced"?
* "He's a deluded idiot!" (I had trouble catching this comment...)
* When Rob Trebor's character told the western guy to get lost, I thought he said "Get lost, Frampton!" Which confused me, because I thought the guy was supposed to be Custer. But I took the tape to my son's (I don't have CC), and the CC just says "Get lost, freak!" Plus the disclaimer mentions Custer, so I guess that's confirmed.
* Did they *have* to put in a clip from In Sickness And In Hell? I still think that was the *worst* comic ep they've ever done... it just totally trashed the characters, especially Xena's, with no real excuses (no spells, no alter-egos, no reincarnation), and offered nothing in compensation but a bunch of feeble gross-out comedy. Frankly, I could have done without seeing it again! (Well... I could have done without seeing it the first time - which is why it's the only comedy ep that I rate "better not made".)
* "Was I Joxer or not?" "I'm going to get you a sedative..." Loved the way Rene=E9 did that. BTW, does this mean she's a *real* doctor, legally license= d to prescribe drugs and all...?
* "No, I don't watch that show - bunch of chop-socky crap! Besides, this was so repulsive. It couldn't have been an episode." "A-ah, you never know with that show... they're sneaky. They'll try anything. One week they're melodrama, the next week they're Three Stooges. And they're *way* too serialised!" Hmm... well, this brings us rather back into the territory I was maundering on about in my introduction, doesn't it? Of course the "chop-socky crap" thing is just a joke, and a good one at that... I've heard lots of people dismiss the show in very similar terms - although the emphasis is usually more on pulchritude than percussion - "Baywatch BC" I've heard, amongst others. This sort of thing is clearly just people responding to superficial appearances without ever having really watched the show receptively, and is a perfectly legitimate target for flippancy. Marco's comments, however, are a little closer to the bone. See, I don't actually have anything against the particular things he points to... the shifting in tone from week to week, even the mixing of tone within episodes, I see as a strength, rather than a weakness of the show. (Although I must admit, I honestly don't find the Three Stooges funny, really, not at all, and when the show's humour wanders too far in that direction, it tends to lose me...) And I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with an episodic show becoming 'serialised'. But... I do think the show currently has some real problems around these issues. Mixing tones is fine, but mixing elements which just can't be reconciled as part of the same imaginative world, OTOH, *is* something of a problem for me, as is jerking the characters around so that they seem to be totally different people in some eps to they are in others. You can make the 'postmodern, ironic' argument, as I discussed in my introduction to this ep... but I'm still not comfortable with where they've gone, in quite a few cases. Too often I've felt alienated from what they've done with their vision in a way which I can't see as in *any* sense constructive, a way which just has me rebelling against what feels like their perverting the original imaginative gift they gave me. And similar things might be said on the serialisation issue. By all means introduce elements which have an ongoing reality in the world of the show... nothing wrong with that. And their earlier efforts, largely focussed on developing Xena's back story, and charting Gabrielle's development as a bard, an Amazon, a traveller dealing with the challenges of her life... these things worked very well, for me. However, their latter efforts have been less successful... not because they were too serialised, but because of *what* they chose to introduce. The dominant "serialisation" of season three was the Hope / Dahak plot, which, to me, was a Big Mistake... not because it was serialised, but because it was based upon entities and moral principles which I personally found morally repugnant, and I simply could not relate to either the imaginative existence of the axioms of this plot within the Xenaverse, nor to the roles the characters were called upon to play in it. So essentially, I had no choice but to simply reject a large part of this core plot of the season... I treat The Deliverer, Gabrielle's Hope and Maternal Instincts, at least, as eps that simply did not happen. So far as I'm concerned, in order to continue to relate to the Xenaverse and the characters of Xena and Gab at all, I have to basically say that these eps were "misreported"... that whatever happened at that point in Xena and Gab's lives wasn't what we were shown in those eps, because that was repulsive nonsense. Something happened... but I just vaguely imagine a non-specific, clearly tragic "something" which precipitated following events. And then the principle "serialised" elements of the fourth season have been the crucifixion as foretold by Alti, and the whole karmic, vision-of-future-lives thing. And these again, were both, in my estimation, mistakes. The idea of karma is fine... but *knowing* where your karma is leading is clearly contrary to the whole essence of the concept, as well as, IMO, just fatally bad story-telling. And as for the crucifixion thing... well the endless repetition of the vision was largely just annoying. And the payoff was, for me, as most of you probably know by now, obscene garbage, which I certainly won't allow into any imaginative universe I intend to inhabit. So... let's just say Marco's speech aggravated some wounds for me.
* Sorry... back to the ep again! (Well... it *is* the end of the season, so I hope you'll forgive my retrospective discursions to some degree...) "On the count of ten, we'll find ourselves in another body." Not all three in the same one, hopefully...
* When Annie and Harry and the Doc all went under together for the first time, Xena and Gab and Joxer were fighting a bunch of soldiers dressed in black in a village, parts of which were burning. What ep was that from? I couldn't place it. I couldn't see any principal villain in any of the shots, and I can't remember those soldiers. I thought perhaps Sacrifice... but surely they mostly fought Dahak priest types there? Or perhaps In Sickness... but Xena and Gab didn't look stupid in the clip. Now it's bugging me...
* I think Robert Trebor likes playing villains - they always seem to make him the bad guy when he's not Sal, and he takes to it with gusto.
* "A bomb! Why, Marco?" "Cause boiling oil is to difficult to rig in this day and age. Now, you've got about ten minutes before this thing blows your heads off." Hmm... the classic bad-guy "leave the good guys so they can escape" modus operandi. May we all have enemies with such a sense of style!
* "This is a karmic catastrophe... I'm gonna come back as a worm... or a cockroach. No! A TV evangelist!"
* And next we get Spiny Norman and Hope's death scene from A Family Affair. Somehow it seemed clearer this time. Did they re-edit it, or is it just hindsight...?
* "You were Xena, right?" "Yes." "OK, then I must have been one of the two blondes."
* "Take us back, Mattie!" What? Suddenly Harry is on first name terms with the Doc? How does he even *know* her name? (Read it off the diploma, I guess. Though "Mattie" is an odd name to put on a diploma. Mind you, I once had a dentist called Babs Cohen...) I do realize they're supposed to be bonding here. And actually, in terms of the acting, I thought it was quite well done.
* The kiss scene from The Quest! Oh yes! Well, if they wanted a 'bonding' scene, that's a good place to start, eh? *Great* scene! I thought they were going to cut before the kiss itself, but no, they went back.
* "Maybe I was the guy with the moustache?" "Botchkalis... or something..." Poor old Auto - sounds like a disease!
* I didn't care at all for Harry whacking Annie. "I'm sorry, sweetheart, I couldn't let you chew on those wires" is all very well and good... but I'm afraid they should have rethought this. To me, it came across far too much as condoning a guy whacking his woman in the face when she was mouthing off to him. Not a pretty image. Of course you could say "well, Annie is Joxer, so this is just Joxer getting whacked again". But then I've always found the way Joxer is abused unpleasant and distasteful too.
* Really, although it was nice seeing the clips, Harry's idea that the best way to deal with being tied up next to a bomb was repeated self-hypnosis seemed rather hard to believe in...
* Oh yes! The Return Of Callisto 'rescue' scene - another great one!
* Seeing all these old clips only reinforced my feelings that the show was basically better when it was somehow simpler. It's all very well talking about 'ambition' and 'scope', but I find it very hard to doubt that the net effect of the increasing emphasis on 'arcs' and complex pseudo-metaphysics has been to weaken the show, so that neither the characters nor the world they live in seem to have the resonance and power they once did. I remember finding out in kindergarten that if you just keep mixing in more colours all you end up with is a muddy brown...
* "I *was* Joxer!" "I was the sidekick." "I know who the Xena Vigilante is." Nicely done...
* "Have you done this before?" "No. But I have many skills."=20
* "It's the red wires!" Oh come on! They couldn't let Gab be right for once? I think they were just pulling our chain. (And anyway, if the timer is a simple circuit closer, surely cutting *either* wire going to it would be just as good?)
* I thought Ares got shut back in the tomb at the end of The Xena Scrolls... so how come he's out?
* Hmm... so Ares still wants Xena, even in a body that looks like Joxer? Nice to see he's flexible and open minded...
* I gather that some people have been complaining that Ted didn't quite pull off becoming Xena. Well, I guess there's some truth in that... he didn't totally bring Xena to life the way Lucy does. But hey, that's a very tall order! I thought he gave it a pretty good shot. I certainly didn't think he disgraced himself, even if he couldn't quite get it (which would have required something close to magic).
* I can't say I was too impressed with idea of Ares as the inspiration of the Y2K problem. Of course, perhaps I'll feel differently next year - but I certainly hope not.
* That scene from The Reckoning was good. But it's kind of hard to take the way they made Ares look back then... somehow he seems geeky, kind of 70s, compared to his current style.
* "Are we gonna fight again?" I liked it! Innovative use of a beanbag as a weapon, too! It seemed a tad unlikely, though, that an umbrella, after being used to fence strenuously with a sword, would still open perfectly with nary a nick in its fabric. Also, in the next fencing shot, the umbrella is furled again - when did Harry / Xena find time to re-furl it?
* And Annie seems to have decided she's not giving in, even if she *is* Joxer. "I decked the god of war!"
* "You know, I think I knew it was going to work out this way." "So why'd you come back for me?" "Like I said - I'm a sentimental guy." Now *that* to me was consistent with the way Ares has been, right since we first saw him. And I still think there's more strength in consistency than in any "sensation of the week" strategy.
* And Annie fancies Ares? ("Great big hunk of god...") It really gets hard to keep track of who fancies whom...
* "Annie. Annie... I, uh" "Harry, I got some bad news for ya. You and I aren't made for each other. She's your soulmate." "My soulmate?" "If you could just stay awake through one episode, you'd know these things." Honestly, this is probably the first scene in X:WP, perhaps the first scene in anything, that actually made me cry and laugh at the same time. Truly. And not crying because of laughter... crying at the actual pathos and sentiment of it, but still laughing at the same time. And I have to say, I'm a great admirer of such mixed messages... somehow laughing and crying at the same time seems almost the quintessential reaction to life, although it so rarely happens. I mean, that scene from One Against An Army that they used was a tremendously moving scene in its original place. But myself, I think I found it even *more* moving the way it was seen in this ep.
* And I *loved* the next bit about Joxer too... about how he saved Xena and Gabrielle from Callisto, and how he had the heart of a lion (which is basically true, IMO)... and then "And he was a very underrated fighter!" Oh gods... I nearly wet myself. And Lucy was *brilliant* here.
* "Oh, um, Harry... I've been aware for some time that you've been going into my underwear drawer at night and um... it's nice to know it was in a good cause." LOL! I'm sorry, but I have to admit I liked this too. So Harry needed Annie's underwear to play the Xena Vigilante... I almost wish we could've seen that.
* "I think I remember... when we first met." Oh yes, I'm a sucker for that one. I have a blow up of Xena and Gab on that horse right over my computer, in front of me while I work.
* OTOH, I'm afraid I found Gab / Mattie's final monologue a bit over the top... a little too much like new age greeting card verse.
* And what about the kiss? I try to avoid reading too much before I write up my own reactions, but I know there's been some controversy about this. I can understand people's frustration about the fact that it's ok to show "Xena" and "Gab" kissing if "Xena" happens to be in a man's body at the time, but not when they're both in women's bodies. And I agree. It's silly and backward that it's somehow a big deal to show something as simple as a kiss between two people. We're still a long way from all people really being treated equally in the media. *But* whilst it may make us aware of things that we don't have and should have, I don't think there was anything actually wrong or false about this kiss in itself... for me, at least.
* And I really *loved* Annie's final coping with "who she used to be"! For some reason (feel free to psycho-analyse me, if that's your thing) this made me cry more than anything else in the ep.
She kicks fannie
Dangerous with sword and knife
Learned her skills in that past life
Never will you outfox her
She's as good as old Joxer
I'm Annie, I'm Annie the Mighty!
You go, girl!
This commentary is by Videntur.
I would like to go into some of the positive aspects of this episode so maybe I should get the negative aspects out of the way first. There are two things I do not like in Xena episodes: the first are "Xena-light" episodes in which Xena either does not appear or has very little part. The second are episodes which make Lucy Lawless and/or Xena look stupid. As the hero of the play, I do not like to see our warrior nor the actress that plays the warrior portrayed as a bumbling idiot - unless its going to be a comedy where everyone plays the part of the fool and not just Lucy Lawless.
First, what I failed to understand was why Gabrielle's spirit was able to be in her body and Ares was able to revert back to his body (although he is a god) but yet Xena's spirit had to be in a different body, and of all bodies, why Joxer? To me (and this is my opinion) the only saving grace to this show were the flashbacks from previous episodes - with the last several flashbacks (picture of Xena, picture of Gabrielle, and the end scene of them laughing together [taken from the episode "A Tale of Two Muses"] being the best.
I disliked the part in the episode where Annie (Lucy Lawless) puts on a Xena outfit and it looks like a "Xena -wannabe" outfit (although this was good acting on the part of Lucy Lawless to be able to look like a total "geek" in Xena wannabe clothing). Worse of all, I hated the last scene where Annie goes skipping down the sidewalk singing "Annie the mighty". I don't mean to sound negative, but why was every other character allowed to display some form of intelligence except the character played by Lucy Lawless.
The show, however, did have a few saving qualities (and I do mean very few). It showed that not only are Xena and Gabrielle's karmas linked in future time but that Ares and Joxer's karmas are also linked to Xena and Gabrielle in the future. It also showed that Ares will never stop trying to win back his warrior princess (note: it was great to see Ares back in the play - you have been truly missed). Best of all, the show showed that Xena and Gabrielle are soulmates with a friendship that will last for all time. This is great because the best episodes are episodes with both Lucy Lawless and Renee O'Connor. Also, if you notice, Ares does make reference to events in the episode "The Xena Scrolls" which if this is true, also tells the viewer that Xena and Gabrielle's life did not end with the crucifixion that we saw in the episode "Ides of March". This is because in "The Xena Scrolls", the scrolls are carefully placed in a wall and Xena has been charged with making sure that Ares does not escape from his entombment. This suggest that Xena and Gabrielle knew of their approaching deaths and had time to hide the scrolls which we know did not happen in "Ides of March" because Gabrielle was always too busy denying that the event would ever come to pass.
All in all, I can truly say that this it is my least favorite episode for the fourth season. I hope that in the fifth season, if the writers and directors want an episode with humor and less action scenes that they write another episode like "A Day in the Life". If I could wish for things to take place in the fifth season they would be: less "Xena-light" episodes [afterall she is the hero and I would like to see her in all the episodes]; less comedy plays [especially those in which the hero looks stupid]; more Ares; more Autolycus; getting back our long-haired fighting bard and more episodes where when our hero receives a wound she is treated by Gabrielle with the love, kindness and friendship shown in the episode "Ides of March" which is my favorite episode for the fifth season.
This commentary is by Beboman.
This was an interesting episode, I'd have to say. Well, we know that Xena's and Gabrielle's souls move on. The characters in "Dejavu." are not descendants of Xena and Gabrielle, as were Janice and Mel, but are the souls of Xena and Gabrielle. This is an interesting premise. Another thing I found interesting was that Xena ended up being male and Joxer was a female, while Gabrielle was still female. (Personally, I would have preferred that LL would have still played Xena.)
Once again, LL's comedic talent came to light in this episode. She did a great job playing Joxer, especially at the end; loved the song. There was not a trace of Xena in her interpretation, a little of Meg maybe.
Ted Raimi was not too bad at playing Xena. Considering all the people who, in one way or another, have played Xena, Ted's portrayal of Xena was not all that bad. (My favorite was when Xena was in Auto's body.) But there was something about Ted's interpretation of Xena that was just not right. (I'm still looking.)
The idea of Xena's and Joxer's souls ending up together as lovers was something of a scary thought. (Maybe I should be nicer to those I find dumb. I really don't want to reincarnate in their body.)
So if the premise is correct and Aries is immortal, where are Aphrodite, Venus, and the rest of the Greek Gods?
Since this show was a clip episode, I agree with some of the clips used, especially those clips that showed Xena's and Gabrielle's life together and all the love there is between these two characters. It was a perfect mixture of happy and sad moments. There is a great chemistry between LL and Roc as actresses, but I also feel (and this is my personal opinion) that the friendship that exists between LL and ROC is very real. It is something that comes through in every scene the two women share.
Moving right along, for ROC's directorial debut, I found this episode was very well done. I have discovered that directing a comedy is harder than directing a tragedy and ROC did an excellent job. The timing was there and the actors all hit their marks, including the extras at the waiting room. Loved Joan and Costar, very well done. And the sword fight with Annie/Xena and Joan was just great. The selection of the episodes that determined which one was which character was a good selection, especially the ones that involved Joxer. It was great to see Salmoneus once again, even though he was just a cover for Aries.
I found it interesting how ROC used the show as the basis of the show. So Annie is a fan of Xena the show and, at the same time, she believes she is Xena the mythological legend, which led to being Xena the vigilante. Good idea. Loved some of Annie's comments regarding the show.
But I have some questions: 1) why is it every time LL plays someone in the future, she has to wear eyeglasses. Why doesn't she change the color of her eyes; 2) Why the bad wig. Don't tell me that they could not have done better in the wig department.
Found it interesting how Aries is still trying to regain control of Xena. I also found it interesting how they were able to explain how Aries appeared. Last time we traveled into the future, Mel and Janice locked Aries back in his tomb.
What made this episode for me was that the direction was so good I forgot it was ROC's directorial debut and I focused on the storyline and the show. This is a sign of a good director. (Please do it again ROC.) All in all, another good episode.
Once again, this is my personal opinion. Season four was a very good season with some really good acting by both LL and ROC, some really good scripts and some excellent directing.
This commentary is by Elad Avron.
THE most BRILLIANT episode EVER made in XWP (You might disagree, so just a note, I DIDN'T get to see 'Bitter Suite' yet, so don't judge me).
I think that if the episode would have started without seeing the house first, and It would have started immediately with the "Callisto" scene, it would've been much more surprising, but it was good still. I found it cool to see Lucy Lawless play a nerdy woman, which was obviously from first sight a little weird. I was more surprised when I saw Harry wake up and saw it was Ted Raimi. It was all nice and cool, until I saw that Xena Warrior Princess paperboard cutout, and then I though it was weird because in that.... reality.... Not only was Xena real, even in the 90's although she was dead by then, but the TV series existed as well, and the actress looked the way she does in real life (Lucy Lawless), Anny (Lucy Lawless) thinks she's Xena (Lucy Lawless), and never have she or anyone else for that matter noticed that Anny looked exactly like Lucy Lawless, the actress who played Xena in the TV show, and no one noticed that both Lucy Lawless, the actress, Anny, and the one they saw as Xena in their trances looked all alike. However the plot was pretty ingenious.
It was fun seeing all of our well known friends from Xena act as 90's characters (Not seeing 'The Xena Scrolls' this is my first 'Present Day' episode). However Renee's character was extremely well done, and all of the actors showed an extremly well playing capabilities, fitting into each other's characters. Ted was doing an extremly well Job as a sceptic respectfull nice and avarage man, unlike his usual 'Jar Jar The Mighty' kind of character. Lucy made a great appearence as well, but I already said that I think.
I knew Anny was probably crazy, or at least I started suspecting she wasn't all that Xena when she took off her coat and appeared in her Xena costume. I suspected there was something stinky about that Marco character, but couldn't point it out. When they said it was all a scam, I said 'I wonder if what Anny saw was something she remembered from the TV series, which would have been a subconscious explanation, and then asked myself if the episodes in that world were the same like ours. Couldn't be, it would've been a never ending circle. However as I realized Anny was Joxer and she started mumble about Joxer being and idiot, I laughed my guts off. Although most people think that about Joxer, I on the other hand think that the writers are abusing the character, and should give him a chance to proove himself. When Marco tied them all up, I wondered what was going on but delayed that thought.
I was realy surprised to see Harry (Ted Raimi) being Xena, but I think he played that part so well (Not in the sense of being Xena, but in the sense of being a Xena reincarnation. The Chakram thingie was of course great, especially since I always say that in all great fantasy stories there is one law that must always happen and proove itself: "History always repeats itself".
When Marco became Ares, it was of course a surprise, but then everything made sense. It was cool seeing how immortal gods made it to the 90's. However, everything now was in place. I remember the Doc saying something about Marco teaching her that trance thingie, which she thought was a scam, but apparently isn't. It's simple. Ares, knowing The Doc was Gabrielle, knew that no matter in what life time they are, the best way to reach Xena, is to get to Gabrielle. So he teamed up with her, taught her the trance thingie so that when Xena comes she'll be able to find out she is Xena, otherwise what's the point, and by that he actualy brought Xena into this lifetime. When Ares and Xena/Harry fought, I almost cried from the irony. It was all nice and cool, and when Anny told Harry and the Doc that they were meant for each other, I started crying.
And of course, the kiss. I found it a little out of place, not because it was woman and woman, no matter if it was man and woman this time, but becase Gabrielle's and Xena's love is greater than anything, including one's sex and/or sexuality. I found the kiss out of place because it underestimated that love, and made it feel like the writers said "Ok, now that they are man and woman, we get our chance to let them express their feelings". Well that's wrong. If nothing stopped them from kissing in this life, nothing should have stopped them from kissing in the Xena life time. It was wrong. I'm not saying I'd like to see them both kiss, not on the sexual side at least, but as I said, if nothing stopped them before, nothing should have now.
I however cried even more to the thought that after all of these years, about 2070 years, if my memory from the ninth grade History lessons is correct (Judging the time of Caesar), after all of this time, Xena and Gabrielle reunite. I have a strong reason to believe that Harry/Xena has both the personality of Harry, and the personality of Xena in one body. It's weird, but it's like if Xena lived in Harry, carrying his memories and knowledge as well as her own's. I also wondered if Xena and Gabrielle will remain in the conciousness of Harry and the Doc forever (until they die), or was it just temporary. It's like if you took Xena and Gabrielle and threw them in our world. Then again, they do have the knowladge and memories of their bodies, so it can help them cope.
That made me think more then anything else in the the entire series. Xena and Gabrielle: Together 'till the end of time. Of course there were more reincarnations in the past ever since the two girls died, as we saw from the episode where Gab gets a hair cut, but the fact that they remembered each other, and each other's lives and memories and consciousness in this life, in our own time, made me cry out of excitement for about two days. Hey, I do have feelings!
I cried even more to the tune of 'Anny Banany', and then it ended. THE most brilliant episode EVER made in the BRILLIANT television series: "Xena Warrior Princess".
WHERE HAVE I SEEN YOU BEFORE?
So, who was who in Deja Vu All Over Again?
There's not really an awful lot I can say about this ep.
I'm not going to attempt to summarise the accomplishments of Lucy Lawless, who did a superlative job playing Annie in this ep, or of Rene=E9 O'Connor, who both played Dr. Matie, and directed the ep... keeping track of their doings is something of an industry by itself in the Xenaverse, and it would futile for me to attempt to cover the ground here.
* The Doc's sleazy and duplicitous (and it turns out ultimately, divine) sidekick Marco was played by Robert Trebor. This is the first time that Robert Trebor has played any role other than Salmoneus on XWP (although you could almost say that Salmoneus himself is many roles in one...) Over on the Herc side, Robert first appeared, along with Rene=E9 O'Connor, as Waylin in the pre-series TV movie Hercules And The Lost Kingdom. He was also seen as Waylin in Hercules In The Maze Of The Minotaur, which was basically just a clip show of the previous Herc movies, and for which Robert did no new scenes. Subsequently, besides playing Salmoneus in *many* HTLJ eps, Robert also played Francois Demarigny in Les Contemptibles, and the nasty studio head B.S. Hollinsfoffer in Yes Virginia There Is A Hercules and For Those Of You Just Joining Us. Robert also went behind the camera to direct the HTLJ ep A Rock And A Hard Place.
Outside the Xenaverse, Robert pops up all over the place. He appears as a guy in a taxi in 1994's The Shadow. He's a motel owner in 1992's Universal Soldier. Also in 1992, he played Buddy in The Nutt House. He was in Talk Radio in 1988. In 1987 he appeared selling tuxedos in Making Mr. Right, and was also seen in My Demon Lover. He had quite a meaty role as a snivelling villain type in 1986's 52 Pick-Up. He was a copy boy in 1985's Turk 182, and the same year appeared as a reporter in Woody Allen's The Purple Rose of Cairo, and in the TV movie Out Of The Darkness. He also appeared in 1982's The First Time, and Gorp (1980).
On TV, Robert has guested on Night Court and Miami Vice... and I suspect I'm missing some others.
* Once Marco dropped his disguise, Ares was played once more by Kevin Smith. Apart from playing Ares on HTLJ, XWP and Young Hercules, Kevin can be seen in Channelling Baby (together with Joel Tobeck and Danielle Cormick), in the TV movie Flatmates (also featuring various other Xenaverse faces), in the NZ movie Desperate Remedies (ditto), and in the TV feature "McLeod's Daughters". He's also, apparently, signed up to do a couple of new shows in NZ, in one of which I heard that he is featured as a detective of some sort... and the name of the show is apparently to be "Lawless"!
* Xena's latest incarnation Harry was, of course, played by Ted Raimi. I won't go over Ted's *many* roles again, since I went through them at length recently, when he appeared as Joxer in If The Shoe Fits.
* The only other credited role in the ep was Tammy Barker as Matie Acting Double - presumably this means that she stood in for Rene=E9 as Dr. Matie whilst Rene=E9 was working behind the camera. Tammy first appeared as a Gabrielle look-alike (the one who got to speak) in The Play's The Thing. And coincidentally she was in this week's HTLJ ep, Revelations, playing the rescued virgin sacrifice Penelope. This is about the only case I can remember of a supporting actor being credited on both shows in the same week, unless you count the week that Karl Urban did Julius Caesar in Render Unto Caesar and A Good Day.
* The ep was written by R.J. Stewart, who still holds the record as the most credited writer for XWP... he wrote The Titans, Prometheus, ACAOTPB, AFOD, MB, Callisto, RoC, Warrior...Princess...Tramp, ADITL, Ulysses, The Furies, Gabrielle's Hope, Forgiven, Crusader, The Way, and Ides Of March plus being credited as Teleplay Writer for SOTP, Destiny, The Debt 1 & 2, and AITST 1 & 2, and as Story Writer for The Quest, both Debts and both parts of AITST.
As already noted, the ep was directed by Rene=E9 O'Connor, taking control behind the camera for the first time.
WHIMPERS, MURMURS, AND A LOVE GONE TOO FAR
09-16-00. Kevin (Ares) Smith was at the Panathenaea Convention in London, England on September 3, 2000. He complimented Renee O`Connor directorial skills. He also mentioned that O'Connor was a very generous and prepared director.
06-22-00. Apparently the kiss at the end of the show was added by the director, Reneè O'Connor.
02-25-00. Steve Sears, a former co-executive producer of XENA, appeared on the NetForum on or around January 31, 2000, under his Tyldus rubrick, and shared the following:[Sears stated before] "On the more amusing side, I've never been accused of more contradictory things than I have while working on Xena. I am a homophobe and honorary lesbian... "
[Comment to Sears statement]Really, with that description, you must be a delight at a party, sort of an equal opportunity offender, eh?
[Sears response] Hah! Now THAT was funny! I'm sure you heard this story before, but the homophobe thing happened in two e-mails once. A true homophobe sent me an e-mail lambasting me for "outting" Xena and Gabrielle in Deja-Vu. WHo cares if they were in male and female bodies, they KISSED! THe very next e-mail was from a lesbian (she said so in her post, by the way, not assumption) who accused ME of being a homophobe because they would only kiss in MALE and FEMALE bodies! I forwarded the e-mails to each of senders. On the first I wrote "Maybe you two should switch TV sets". Oh, and by the way, the infamous "kiss" in that episode wasn't in the script. It was added it in on the set. I was as surprised as anyone.
12-16-99. In October 1999, Renee O'Connor was interviewed in STAR LOG magazine. She stated, "In the episode I directed ["Deją Vu All Over Again"], Ted has to play Xena and he's Xena in a past life. And we have this very simple scene, Ted as Xena having a conversation with Ares. I wanted him to play it as Lucy plays Xena, when she's quite staunch, her shoulders pulled back and standing upright. She could take Ares on in a minute, and almost torments and tantalizes him at the same time. I wanted Ted to play that," she laughs, seemingly incredulous about her own request. "And then Ted played Xena as the feminine side of Ted, a bit hysterically, in a comedic way. Then, I wanted him to play a nasty moment between Xena and Ares, just mean, downright hard and formidable, because Xena has that about her, when she can test Ares with her whole body. Ted is such a nice guy that it's not in his body to insult and rip someone apart. I just couldn't get it from him, he's just a good soul. That, in its own way, enlightened me about Ted and his true personality. He doesn't have that nastiness other people have within them."
06-23-99. On an on-line chat at tvguide.com on 06/16/99, Ted Raimi said about his choice in how to play "Xena" in DEJA VU: "I found the worst elements in myself and brought them forward it's just like when i bring some of the best and simplest for joxer"
05-11-99. BETWEEN THE LINES was Steven Sears' take on the UberXena fanfiction genre, and now R.J. Stewart gets his chance up to bat. If anything, the 4th season of XWP will be seen as the year TPTB co-opted the fan fiction genre of Uber and took it to heights which no one in fandom would dare do. This will be the second time an Uber was male to the other's female. In BETWEEN THE LINES, the UberXena was an elderly woman leading her people to freedom, while in DEJA VU, the UberXena is a male in his 30's called upon to battle with Ares once more (picking up, no doubt, where Melinda Pappas left off back in the 1940s). In BETWEEN THE LINES, the UberGabrielle was a young prince who was also fighting for his people's freedom, while in DEJA VU, the UberGabrielle is a twenty something female scam artist in 1999 LA. DEJA VU will be the first time the Ubers are on camera, the opposite sex, and around the same age. Will this inspire a spate of hetero-Ubers?
04-14-99. The May-June issue of MAKE-UP ARTIST had an article about the make-up artists on XWP. In the article they have a picture of Lucy Lawless as the character she plays in DEJA VU. The character is a generic fan of XWP, who is married to Ted Raimi as the "non-believer" spouse. It is thought that Renee O'Connor would not appear in the episode since she was directing, but the inclusion of O'Connor in new agey garb also in MAKE-UP ARTIST makes one think she might play a cameo in DEJA VU. DEJA VU takes place in LA in 1999.
03-26-99. At the NYC Xena Convention (02-27-99) it was reported that the Mel and Janice (XENA SCROLLS) sequel had been scrapped in favor of the O'Connor directed episode which would also take place in the 1940's. However, this is in direct conflict with intelligence received about DEJA VU being a modern day episode a la YES VIRGINIA THERE IS A HERCULES; however, instead of being about the production people, it would be about the fans. I guess we will just have to wait and see. I find it easier to believe that they are doing a 1990's episode as opposed to a 1940's episode WITHOUT Janice and Mel. But then, stranger things have happed.
12-21-98. DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN, to be Renee O'Connor's directorial debut, was originally scheduled for filming in December (the last before the summer break [December-January]), but the episode before it was running over (apparently THE WAY) and instead of having to work into the break, DEJA VU has been rescheduled for February 1999. Also, Robert Trebor will not be playing Salmoneus. This is supporting some wild conjecture that DEJA VU will be the Janice and Mel sequel episode mentioned by Robert Tapert at the Burbank II Con (01/98) and hinted at by RJ Stewart in his RealHollywood chat on December 15, 1998.
11-22-98. The episode title PEARL AND THE BOOK was associated with this clip show for a while, but the name was confimred as DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN in late October 1998. It is not clear whether this name is superceding the title PEARL AND THE BOOK, or superceding some other title. As of this date, we are still runnig with 23 titles for a 22 episode season...if DEJA VU stays, something has to go.
11-08-98. Looks like the clip show will not be a Janice Covington/Melinda Pappas show after all. Salmoneus will be in tow, however.
THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR
These things are by Beth Gaynor.
Annie's costume had to have been snagged from some convention-goer. I think I've seen it before. Come to think of it, I think I've met a half-dozen Annies at those things.
Ted Raimi now joins Renee O'Connor, Hudson Leick, and Bruce Campbell in the distinguished list of people who have attempted the Xena battle cry. Lucy Lawless even gets honorable mention for impersonating herself: listen for Annie's weak try at the Xena battle cry during "Joan" and "Xena"'s sword battle.
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06-23-99. From Virginia Carper. One of the people in the waiting room was 'General Patton'. When I first watched "Destiny", they introduced Julius Caesar with music from the movie, "Patton". At first, I thought that was a fluke. But when they introduced 'Patton' in the waiting room, they played the same music. I think that someone in Xenaland knows that General George Patton believed in past lives. Patton had a custom of going to a place and reliving a past life. One of his past lives was Caesar. Patton's friend, General Omar Bradley thought that he was nuts. But Bradley also thought Patton reliving past lives and past life battles helped him to win the war.
05-17-99. From Rob Lent. The title "Deja Vu All Over Again" is a Yogi Berra quote, who was known for making such odd or redundant comments.
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No Sword-Wielding, Card-Playing, Therapy-Seeking French Freedom Fighters were deflowered during the production of this motion picture. However, rumors of Custer and Pocahontas remain unconfirmed.